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Conversations is a leadership podcast for pastors, leaders, and creatives who care about building healthy lives, healthy teams, and healthy churches.
Hosted by Josh Andrew — pastor, leader, and entrepreneur — each episode features honest conversations and solo reflections around leadership, ministry, entrepreneurship, faith, and personal growth. This isn’t about hype or building a platform. It’s about clarity, character, and staying faithful to the calling God has given you.
Whether you’re leading a church, building a business, serving on a team, or navigating the tension between calling and responsibility, Conversations exists to help you lead with conviction, wisdom, and integrity — in ministry and in life.
New episodes weekly. Pull up a chair and join the conversation.
Conversations is a leadership podcast for pastors, leaders, and creatives who care about building healthy lives, healthy teams, and healthy churches.
Hosted by Josh Andrew — pastor, leader, and entrepreneur — each episode features honest conversations and solo reflections around leadership, ministry, entrepreneurship, faith, and personal growth. This isn’t about hype or building a platform. It’s about clarity, character, and staying faithful to the calling God has given you.
Whether you’re leading a church, building a business, serving on a team, or navigating the tension between calling and responsibility, Conversations exists to help you lead with conviction, wisdom, and integrity — in ministry and in life.
New episodes weekly. Pull up a chair and join the conversation.
Episodes

Friday Apr 11, 2025
Are You Building People Or Just Using Them?
Friday Apr 11, 2025
Friday Apr 11, 2025
In this episode of Conversations, we unpack a critical mindset shift for pastors and church leaders: stop using people to build the church—start using the church to build people.
We dive into five key thoughts that challenge the way we lead, manage, and care for those in our churches. From the tension between organizational and spiritual leadership to the importance of honoring people over gifting, this episode offers both conviction and practical steps to help you lead with heart.
Topics include:
• Building a people-first church culture
• The true role of a shepherd in leadership
• How to empower, not extract, from your leaders
• Why presence matters more than performance
• Reflective questions to help assess your leadership approach
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If you’re ready to create a healthy, sustainable, and people-centric ministry, this episode will give you tools to do just that.
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