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Conversations is a leadership podcast for pastors, leaders, and creatives who care about building healthy lives, healthy teams, and healthy churches.
Hosted by Josh Andrew — pastor, leader, and entrepreneur — each episode features honest conversations and solo reflections around leadership, ministry, entrepreneurship, faith, and personal growth. This isn’t about hype or building a platform. It’s about clarity, character, and staying faithful to the calling God has given you.
Whether you’re leading a church, building a business, serving on a team, or navigating the tension between calling and responsibility, Conversations exists to help you lead with conviction, wisdom, and integrity — in ministry and in life.
New episodes weekly. Pull up a chair and join the conversation.
Conversations is a leadership podcast for pastors, leaders, and creatives who care about building healthy lives, healthy teams, and healthy churches.
Hosted by Josh Andrew — pastor, leader, and entrepreneur — each episode features honest conversations and solo reflections around leadership, ministry, entrepreneurship, faith, and personal growth. This isn’t about hype or building a platform. It’s about clarity, character, and staying faithful to the calling God has given you.
Whether you’re leading a church, building a business, serving on a team, or navigating the tension between calling and responsibility, Conversations exists to help you lead with conviction, wisdom, and integrity — in ministry and in life.
New episodes weekly. Pull up a chair and join the conversation.
Episodes

Friday Jun 27, 2025
Why Scaling Too Soon Hurts Church Growth
Friday Jun 27, 2025
Friday Jun 27, 2025
In this episode of Conversations, we’re talking about one of the most overlooked truths in leadership: scaling too soon will wreck what you’re trying to build.
Whether you're a church planter, pastor, or entrepreneur, you’ve probably felt the pressure to grow fast, reach more, launch the next thing. But here’s the truth—scale won’t fix your weak spots. It’ll multiply them.
We’ll unpack:
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Why bad culture scales just as fast as good culture
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How your motive for growth matters more than your model
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Why God’s timing won’t match your algorithm
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The difference between platform and preparation
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And how to build deep before you build wide
You’re not behind. You’re being built. And in a world chasing fast and flashy, we’re choosing faithful and foundational.
If you’ve ever felt like your season is hidden, slow, or small—this episode is for you.
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Website: https://joshandrew.org/

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